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Lydia123
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30-Aug-10, 02:42 PM (PST)
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"Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
 
   This has become quite a big pet peeve of mine that I have been coming across more and more lately. In the past month I have had three really great clients share their thoughts with me about how I should be living my life. I am in my early 30's and consider to be on the path that I think is best for me and it is none of my clients business what I do in my personal life since what they see isn't really "me".

I'm sure you ladies have heard the following:
1. "You aren't going to want to do this job forever"
2. "Why don't you find a man to settle down with"
3. "You should let me be your boyfriend and all your problems will go away"

How do you ladies respond to these comments? Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that I have to cut these clients off entirely but I wanted some outside opinions as to how you all handle these personal comments.

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TheGildedRose
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1. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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1. That is none of your business.
2. That is none of your business.
3. I don't have any problems so thanks but no thanks.

xoxo, Rose

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great_day_to_play
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8. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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Very well said rose


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Gretchen
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2. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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Oh boy. That is so insulting. Unsolicited advice really is the kiss of death, isn't it?

One time when I really got my back up, I said, "I'm sure you don't mean to imply that YOU would do a better job with my life than what I am doing."

LOL that shut him up.

One thing that helps is to make sure you are not talking about your problems with clients. Men seem to be hardwired to rescue the damsel in distress and they will try to FIX whatever you are grappling with even though they have neither clue nor daring-do.

Sometimes I like to brag about how many dragons I'm dealing with. Also sometimes hearing myself talk about my dragons helps me to sort out which ones I had better slay first. That doesn't mean I want someone else to swoop in front and take my victory away, the meddling bastard. I rather hope they will gaze with admiration as I swing the sword.

Gretchen

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LovePlusPeace
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30-Aug-10, 04:48 PM (PST)
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3. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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Remember deep down they really are trying to be nice and their way of sharing to help you out...

As you say that you are not your realself when providing, most of us are characters with different names...

So you play the part, and you tell them that you either don't appreaciate or are not interested in any other help, BUT they can help you by paying you more...

After all we are suppose to be incharge of our sessions and it is all about us...

We are the fancy, and we have and can set our limits and boundaries as we wish, most of the time anyway...

So if they are good clients, I would tell them what your concerns and most of the time if they are really trying to be that sensitive to you, they will understand where you are coming from and maybe have a better understanding and respect for you...

If they don't take it well, then good rending, you were going to kick them to the curve anyway if they shape up...

No lose, no gain, just another trick on the live of a whore...

Love11

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TheGildedRose
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4. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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LAST EDITED ON 31-Aug-10 AT 02:12 PM (PST)
 
Whichever lady above said "don't discuss your problems" that is EXCELLENT advice. Although what I said was to the point, I meant it. No one and I mean NO ONE has asked me those questions in YEARS because I do not project neediness. I project a very assertive, know-what-I-am-doing type attitude. I didn't even realize it till I read your post!

I am going to explain with the statement below that I am not writing this to you specifically. I say this because in the past when I used to ask for advice, I used to HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT when other providers talked down to me. So please if it sounds like that, I do apologize. I hope the following is just general advice for everyone, not YOU in particular, o.k.? O.k.! Thanks!

So to start: Clients are FULL of stereotypical ideas of what our lives are like. I bet we could do a whole thread on that! I remember on guy asked me what drug or what I was addicted to. I was like wtf? He said he heard all women like us were drug addicts or alcoholics. Another one said he would date me (boy I was supposed to be excited by that!) because he heard NONE of us had boyfriends or husbands. When I told him the MAJORITY of my co-workers were in relationships he was stunned. Lol.

So one has to come from the place where one understands where ones clients are coming from. Possibly they see this line of work from a Western ethno-centric society that deems sex workers as devalued and degraded persons. They feel are not in control of our lives and not living a chosen lifestyle. If we are in a relationship with a man, they assume (as have the persons who have taken census polls in the past) that he is automatically a pimp.

I think it would be of value to all of us to do some reading about our life-style to understand the power-structure of our culture, how in this society it devalues us, whereas in other cultures and in other centuries, we were highly regarded and esteemed members of the community. In realizing OUR strength and value, we might feel more clear in how we see ourselves before we wish to answer anybody who has a confused judgment of our roles as a s.w.s

I book I very much recommend, is called The Comforts of Home, Prostitution in Colonial Nairobi by Luise White. University of Chicago Press, 1990.

This book is EXCELLENT. Luise explains how the past studies of sex workers were horribly slanted and biased (an example was the one I gave above, where any man found in a sex worker's home was sited as a "pimp" in surveys and that was all over the world.) The book explains how integrated s.w.'s were in Nairobi, how they were not only welcomed members of society, but important and highly regarded landowners as well.

So do some studying y'all, get empowered!!!


xoxo, Rose

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summerrayne
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01-Sep-10, 10:57 PM (PST)
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10. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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Ditto, Rose; no one asks me those questions either.

It's always Summer at my place! xoxo

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CaitlynKennedy
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11. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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LAST EDITED ON 03-Sep-10 AT 00:48 AM (PST)
 
that is cuz they already know the answers from reading your posts summer lol.... ok but don't be offended by that, I love ya... but its true heheheh... you put your business out there for the world to read already, so no need to ask the questions as they all have read the answers anyways



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faeryfae
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5. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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I think it just comes with the territory.

You can minimize it by having your act together, but my theory is that the advice-givers would want to give advice no matter what. There is no extent of success that could not be improved! And it's not that it's all bad advice, it's more the principle of the matter. No one likes to feel like someone is trying to 'fix' them. So... there are a couple of different ways to think about it. You could think... this guy thinks he knows better than I do how to live my own life, how arrogant! Or, you could think, wow, this guy cares about me, and this is how he is expressing it. The latter interpretation is the one I try to go to, because it feels better to me. Then, just say "thanks for sharing your perspective, I really appreciate it that you care" and let it go.

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candycoated_pleasure
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6. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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All the time, and trust me it get's annoying, so guess what, I try to kill the conversation FAST!



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Dream_lyfe69
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7. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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   that's funny and true candycoated.......call me

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candycoated_pleasure
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9. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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Hey DREAM! I just saw this. Im going to give you a ring right now. Hope you doing good love!

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CaitlynKennedy
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12. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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my answers if I WAS gonna answer this...

1. I am not... I am retiring to Ma 12/26
2. I have found someone
3. see answer #2 and trust me he blows ANY man out of the water... so don't think you can compete lol

I love my clients, but I like to treat them like I am having a secret affair and so are they, and when we are together no one else matters, just each other... so why ruin it and talk about our SO's?

lets just be single and have eyes for each other while we are with each other.... and after that we can go back to reality!


Moving & retiring to MA. 12/24

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KylieJordan
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13. "RE: Do clients ever tell you how to live YOUR life?"
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   1. "You aren't going to want to do this job forever"
-Yeah, well that's what your mom said too.

2. "Why don't you find a man to settle down with"
-Because I'd rather be cheated with than on.

3. "You should let me be your boyfriend and all your problems will go away"
-Boyfriends are my problem, that's why I smile when you leave.

I'm totally being a smart-ass, don't really say this to anyone. LOL

KJ
Yeah, I know... but I can't help it.

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